Friday, April 29, 2011

Ep. 11 - FLETCH - April 2011

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Episode 11 features film critic Cody Clark of the Daily Herald newspaper

Considering the Sequels is a monthly film podcast that examines the merits and weaknesses of specific movie franchises. Right-click the title of this post to download this episode free.

In Episode 11 we consider the “Fletch” movies. As always we each give Mini Reviews of recent film releases and whatever else we’ve been watching lately, and this episode concludes with the reading and answering of listener e-mails — as well as drawing our winner for the random, free DVDs!

Your hosts are Andy Howell, Karl Huddleston and Jason Pyles. Download this episode to hear who won our five random movies DVD give-away.


I. Introduction

II. Considering the Sequels: Fletch

- Fletch — (04:45)

- Fletch Lives — (33:47)

- Franchise Overview (1:01:44)

— A Brief Message About Our Sponsor, Heftel Studios (1:04:11)

- Tune in to our next LIVE broadcast on Ustream (1:05:28)

III. Mini Reviews

(1:05:56) - Andy: Megamind, Let Me In, Let the Right One In, Andy’s Best Worst Movies List

(1:15:40) - Cody Clark: True Grit (2010), Coen Bros. filmography, TRON: Legacy, Hop, The Spy Who Loved Me

(1:44:15) - Jason: Scream 4, Film Art quote about Alien, Modern Family, Bizarre Movie Bin Pick: Caveman

(1:51:13) - Karl: Hanna, Your Highness, Paul and Rotten Tomatoes critics, Karl’s Geek News: Blu-ray digital copy codes, Nintendo Wii, The Incredibles Blu-ray, DLP digital projection trivia

IV. Answering Listener E-mails (2:04:05)

(2:05:37) Question from mbc (aka SaintSeattle) on interpreting a movie review for one’s own tastes

(2:16:20) Question from Grant (aka Huggy Bear) inquiring about B movie- and low-budget recommendations

(2:25:41) Question from MeLuvsHorror who asks why we even covered shock cinema in the first place

(2:27:36) Question from Cody Clark who also asks what we were thinking by covering extreme cinema

(2:31:46) Question from Milt on “underground horror” films

(2:33:31) E-mail from A.A. compares shock films to love stories

(2:36:13) Comments from Miss Vickie on our “Jaws” franchise rating

V. Drawing for the Winner of Five Random DVDs (2:38:47)

Wrap-Up / Credits (2:41:13)

End Time (2:42:45)

Cody Clark, Andy, Karl and Jason give their collective verdict on this franchise, from 0 to 100:

Fletch = 76

Fletch Lives = 67

Overall Franchise = 72

Special Links Mentioned in This Episode:

Lumière Bros.’ 1895 short film, Watering the Gardener”

Jason’s Much-Better-Than-Karl-Gave-It-Credit-for Movie Review of “Star Trek” (2009)

Cody Clark’s Full Movie Review of “127 Hours”

Dr. Shock's DVD

The B Movie Cast Podcast

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Thanks to our guest, Mr. Cody Clark of the Daily Herald newspaper, for returning to our show. Thanks to our official sponsor, Heftel Studios, and thanks to the Dave Eaton Element for the use of Dave’s music. Thanks to Kara Brewer for her graphic designs and Bill Barnes for his artistic vision.

Episode 11 was recorded on April 17, 2011.


  1. Hey guys, listening to your discussion about favorite b-movies right now. Wondering if anyone has seen BIG MEAT EATER?

    A friend of mine found this in a bargain been at a grocery store or something and had to get it because it is a campy sci-fi horror musical b-movie. It's extremely terrible and extremely entertaining--highly recommend it.

    Also, while I'm typing, loved the episode, very entertaining. I have to say I'm with Andy and Karl--I tend to think of the Fletch movies as classics and I think they are some of the better comedies ever made. Love them, quote them oft, just great stuff.

    Also, I can see that we need to have a big heated discussion about NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN which is nothing short of brilliant and has an absolutely perfect ending. How do put a nice and tidy satisfying ending on a movie about the inability to understand your enemy? Everyone wants to make sense of this killer, including us the viewer but we can't. It's very frustrating for the characters and us. There's something to be learned from that. I recommend a short story by Flannery O'Connor called "A Good Man is Hard to Find" which to me has a similar theme--sort of trying to relate to a sociopath.

    Also, Andy, you got cut off by Jason because you were going into spoiler territory so ***SPOILER ALERT*** I guess. Were you going to say that you were afraid Bardem's character was going to kill Carla Jean? Because while we can't know for sure, I think there's some evidence to suggest he did because he mimicked an action from earlier in the film after he killed Woody Harrelson's character. In that scene he lifted his feet to keep from getting blood on his boots. After he leaves Carla Jean's house he checks his boots. I think we have to assume he's checking for blood.

    Looking forward to your next episode and our next discussion together.


  2. Barrett,

    Thank you for your excellent comments. I'm so grateful that you shared them with everyone (and not just me).

    First of all, for those who have a Netflix membership, Barrett's recommendation of "Big Meat Eater" is now available to be streamed on Netflix Watch Instantly — as is my recommendation, "Killer Klowns From Outer Space."

    And Barrett, I know we've had our "what makes a masterpiece" discussion, but apparently, it appears that we should also have a "what makes a classic" debate. I can agree that the two "Fletch" movies are "classic '80s comedies," but not altogether "classics" in the same way that "The Wizard of Oz" or "Casablanca" are called classics. Maybe that's what you meant.

    And just for the record, I loved "No Country for Old Men." I didn't love the ending, but as I said on the show, it seemed the most accurate scenario as to what would actually happen if that story were real. For me, it wasn't the lack of closure that bothered me, it was the abruptness. I'd like to have a full-blown Concept Discussion on this film — and it might be fun to have a compare and contrast debate between "No Country for Old Men" and "The Terminator." Both have implacable killers; both end in uncertainty.

    And yes — SPOILERS for "No Country for Old Men" — I think it's undeniably apparent that he kills Carla Jean.

    But I hereby challenge any of you to have a podcast where we break down and discuss "No Country for Old Men," scene by scene, including its themes. And listeners, if you'd like to hear such a podcast from us, let us know in this Comments area or at

    Thanks again, Barrett.


  3. There's definitely plenty to discuss. I've seen it several times and it always makes me think, it really got in my head. I loved TRUE GRIT but I prefer and admire NO COUNTRY more.

    And it was clear from your comments Jason you admired the movie, Karl is the one I have to butt heads with on this one my desire for a spirited discussion about it were fueled mostly by his remarks.

  4. Forgive the crappy grammar in that last post. I don't type so well on my phone.

  5. OK. I just had to make sure it was clear to people that I wasn't agreeing with the guy who thinks that "Transformers" was the best movie of 2007 (referring to our Best of the Aughts episode). 2007 happens to be the same year that "No Country for Old Men," "There Will Be Blood," "In the Valley of Elah," "Eastern Promises," "The Savages," "Into the Wild," "Lars and the Real Girl," "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly," "Gone Baby Gone" and my best pick of the year, "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead," were released. So, yeah, you're dealing with the guy who picks "Transformers" above those, Barrett. Good luck.

  6. I just also want to make clear - I AM the guy who thought Transformers was the best movie of that year. And each of YOU knows deep down that you had more fun watching that movie than any of the other hi folutin' artsy fartsy movies that were listed. (rasberry) Nuf said!