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This BONUS episode features film critic Tim Buel of The Golden Briefcase Podcast (the official podcast of First

Considering the Sequels is a monthly film podcast that examines the merits and weaknesses of specific movie franchises. In this BONUS episode, we consider the “Pirates of the Caribbean” franchise and answer some voice mails from our Listener Feedback Hotline: 801.382.8789.

Your hosts are Andy Howell, Karl Huddleston and Jason Pyles. Download this episode to hear which movie Tim Buel bestows a dreaded “ 0 ” rating upon — it’s not what you’re thinking!


I. Introduction

Friend-of-the-show, film critic Cody Clark’s new film blog, THE GREAT ESCAPE, at (00:45)

II. Considering the Sequels: Pirates of the Caribbean

Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (03:49)

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest (24:09)

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End (42:22)

Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (55:46)

Franchise Overview (1:14:15)

— A Brief Message About Our Sponsor, Heftel Studios (1:21:07)

- Tune in to our next LIVE broadcast on Ustream (1:21:55)

II. Host Recommendations (1:22:12)

(1:22:52) Tim Buel recommends: First’s The Golden Briefcase Podcast, and “Troll Hunter”

(1:27:17) Andy recommends three “villain-driven movies”: “The Professional,” “Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai” and “Grosse Pointe Blank”

(1:30:11) Jason recommends: Cliff Ravenscraft’s The Podcast Answer

(1:32:10) Karl recommends: “The Taking of Pelham 123” (1974), Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray Player

III. Listener Voice Mails (1:34:29)

(1:35:00) Question from Phyllis from West Virginia

(1:41:17) Question from “Huggy Bear” in Denver

(1:43:12) Question (from Bobby in Utah)

Wrap-Up / Credits (1:51:30)

End Time (1:55:10)

Tim Buel, Andy, Karl and Jason give their collective verdict on this franchise, from 0 to 100 (Jason’s scores are not reflected in the sums below):

Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl = 83

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest = 40 (cinematic dead horse beating)

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End = 23 (cinematic dead horse beating)

Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides = 32 (cinematic dead horse beating)

Overall Franchise = 39 (cinematic dead horse beating)

Addenda From Jason:

During this episode, I did not have my notes organized conveniently, so I was unable to specifically name the following individuals who worked on “Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl,” and honor them with accolades for their quality work. To try to make up for this failing on my part, here are their names:

Brian Morris - Production Designer

Larry Dias - Set Decoration

Penny Rose - Costume Designer

Special Link Mentioned in This Episode:

Cody Clark’s Film Blog The Great Escape


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Thanks to our guest, Tim Buel, for honoring our podcast with his appearance. Thanks to our official sponsor, Heftel Studios, and thanks to the Dave Eaton Element for the use of Dave’s music. Thanks to Kara Brewer for her graphic design work and Bill Barnes for his artistic vision.

This BONUS episode was recorded on May 29, 2011.


  1. I completely agree that the first Pirates film was fantastic. Disney should have stopped there and let a great movie be rather than trying to make it into an epic franchise. The second and third films were awful and, because of them, I’m not even going to see the fourth installment unless it’s in the Redbox—and only if someone else pays for it.

    I wish I could play the dead-horse beating sound effect again for the third movie; the plot just didn’t make sense. I think the best summation of the third film’s plot comes from Jason’s movie reviews:

    "Trying to follow 'Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End' feels like this: (Read with a pirate voice.)

    I’m Skipper Bottson, and this is me matey, Melky Antigone. Years ago the curse of the Delphi yielded 14 of 13 magpies for the takin’. Arrrrgh. If we travel to RoShamBo via skeeter shoals, then we can claim their nettles and kirtlings and free the Santars. Savvy?

    Are you ready to quit reading yet? Yeah, that’s what it’s like to watch 'At World’s End.'"

    If you’re interested in reading the full review from the man himself, look this up:

  2. Steve,

    I'm so flattered that you'd quote me. That's totally how I felt when I first saw that movie, and having just seen it again, I still feel the same way.

    What's so interesting about this particular case of fabricated lore is that viewers are usually open to new stories and new spins on the old, traditional tales of iconic characters, such as pirates. But "At World's End" is an obvious example of taking it too far. Yes, we all still want the familiar, Shakespearean story lines at the heart of the narrative — with modern-day twists. I guess that explains the baffling Best Picture winner of 1998:

    One more thing, Steve: Please see the comments at the bottom of Episode 9. One of our listeners has a question for you that I'll post there.